Posts by Separation of Powers

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Jesus Christ's horrible death

by Crazyguy in

it amazes me how much thinking one does when you're out of the cult.

i mean another thread got me thinking about the story of jesus death.

so adam breaks a little test lives for 900 plus years and then dies of natural causes.

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Look....If he can drown hundreds of thousands of people, including babies, in a world wide flood...he can take out his own kid...don't you think?

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Hypocritical video on jw.org "what's a real friend."

by stuckinarut2 in

have you watched the 4 min animated white board drawing video on jw.org called "what's a real friend?".

it is one of the most hypocritical pieces they have produced!.

it goes into detail explaining that real friends "don't judge you, dont talk about you behind your back, don't hold grudges, don't expect you to conform, and encourage individuality!".

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You can have NO REAL FRIENDS in the Watchtower. There are only people who drives buses and others that will throw you under them.

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Prince on Saturday Night Live

by designs in

did you catch it.. http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/watch-princes-electric-prformance-from-tonights-saturd-1653735759.

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Need some input: Wife refuses to respect what I believe

by goingthruthemotions in

i had a rough time with my wife last week.

i guess i started the fight by telling her that her love is conditional.

( and the fight started).

Undeniable proof the Organisation has Jehovahs Blessing and Direction

by wheelwithinwheel in

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Oh, YES that is proof positive! Nostradamus guessed at a lot of things as well but I don't call him a prophet to be believed in. By the way, I have some fields of wheat that are producing enormously well....it's almost a miracle!

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My Muslim friend's and the Koran.

by new hope and happiness in

in another thread i raised the point " there are moderate muslims but their is no moderate islam".

now i must face the fact i have muslim friends who say they believe the koran.. well i have asked these muslim friends, if they have investigated the origins of the koran.

they have answerd " yes".

Separation of Powers

People have the RIGHT to believe what they want to believe. I have Catholic friends, Protestant, Jewish and yes...Muslim. I don't care what they believe, nor do I expect them to try to justify their beliefs. In the end, I have chosen friends with whom I share common interests NOT common beliefs.

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Bible - War in heaven - Satan cast to earth - Why?

by berrygerry in

reading the oct 1 1953 wt about gog of magog because of the posts about the changes of identity.. basic question:.

why would satan (whether gog or not) be cast to the earth?.

why not cast him to quadrant 4 of the galaxy?.

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There wasnt enough room!

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Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

by FeelingFree in

i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

Separation of Powers

In the 70's and 80's, when a lot of this stuff was coming to light and the eldership was in its infancy, the congregation was indoctrinated to believe that the elder BODY, no longer the Congregation Servant, was in charge of their spiritual well-being. Therefore, in order to please the almighty, one needed to demonstrate faith and appreciation for this "new light" that was more in line with 1st century process. That being the case, everything from depression, attempted suicide, cheating spouses, business dealing gone awry, and, yes, child abuse issues, were entrusted to this group of men who were appointed by HOLY SPIRIT and approved with a little green check by the Governing Body (well, actually the little green check was from the Service Desk). To go outside of this judicial process, and yes, many references were made to the words of the Apostle Paul when he said:

"When one of you has a dispute with another believer, how dare you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter instead of taking it to the believers!" (1 Corinthians 6:1 -New Living Translation)

"Don't you realize that someday WE believers will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?" ( 1 Corinthians 6:2-English Standard Version)

Yes, these holy spirit appointed brothers were QUALIFIED to judge all matters. They were not INCOMPETENT. After all, the Bible said so. So, unfortunately, these men simply did what they were told. They were instructed to follow procedures that, in my opinion, highlighted the importance of the congregation's reputation over the welfare of the victim. The victim's family, if they were "full boat" witnesses, wanted to uphold this standard of righteousness and theocratic arrangement that they were taught to believe was the God SANCTIONED manner to address all issues. We see where that ended...don't we?

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How good a boxer was Muhammad Ali?

by LoveUniHateExams in

when i was a hyperactive kid, i used to like boxing, and of course muhammad ali.

he was a great athlete, with a one-of-a-kind style who made a stand for his beliefs.. now that i'm older, i admire athletes that are quieter and get on with the job in hand - joe frazier, for example.. i'd like to put american racial politics and ali's tragic current condition to one side and focus on the following:.

how good a fighter was ali?.

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Up and coming....phenomenal

At his peak of popularity...not as good as all that, more of a showboater than necessary....

In all though, considering the top of the heavy weights, had to be in the top 3...maybe even 2.

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Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation

by Mary in

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ever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?

the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.

1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.

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Great progression and pretty much on point (one of the reasons I stepped down or in my case...UP)

I started as PO then ended by going back to college.....and everything in between.